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Help! Abscesses! Advice needed - Friday, March 27, 2015 5:25 AM
Hi, I normally don't do this but I'm at such a loss, I need some advice from experienced ferret owners
I have a 5-6ish old ferret, rescued a few years ago, named Gustavo. He is very loving, energetic, and happy. He is also a Marshalls ferret..
About 6 weeks ago, I noticed a small growth at the base of his tail near his anus. It doubled in size overnight to I rushed him to the vet. They determined it was an abscess, lanced it, put him on a supplement to help his skin and weight, and antibiotics/steroids. 3 weeks later, as soon as the wound healed it developed again. However it was a Friday night. The vets assistant said to watch it and ring him Monday. Tit ruptured over Sunday night, so they cleaned it, have him another shot of antibiotics. They then gave him a laser treatment on the site, which has helped. But that night he vomitted, so I took him back and they found his stomach was tense and gave him something to help with that's then we found blood in his ears so they gave him drops. I brought him back Wednesday, and they gave him a clean bill of health, after 7 vet trips.

Well, that night I found another abscess of the opposite side of his rumpZ I'm going back to the vet tomorrow to trea it, however it seems he may just keep getting them and I don't have any sort of diagnosis. 

Any ideas at all? This has gotten really expensive really fas.
I'm very tired writing this, sorry
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Re:Help! Abscesses! Advice needey - Friday, March 27, 2015 6:47 AM
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Re:Help! Abscesses! Advice needed - Friday, March 27, 2015 3:50 PM
Sorry, I was extremely tired last night when I typed that out. It's just so draining, I feel like I'm at the vets office every other day. Here is a more specific timeline of the events:

5 weeks ago, found a large (size of a small cherry) abscess adjacent to his anus, on the left side (if you're behind him). Took him to the vet, where they determined it was an abscess. Had it lanced the following morning and addressed to other issues. He had been slower, more lethargic, and very itchy (he's always been itchy, he won't eat anything but cat food, eggs, and supplement and it causes his skin to get dry). He was a free roam ferret, and we decided that he would have to be contained as he is getting too old to deal with the cats. They provided a supplement for his food called Sunshine Factor. Also received antibiotics and steroids. 
2 weeks later, VAST improvements, eating very well, very active, still no change on skin, abscess healing well.
2 days later Lancing site completely healed, abscess is back, discovered on a Friday evening. Brought back to vet, abscess not too large, gives antibiotics, says abscess should start going down, will lance again on Monday, shouldn't rupture.
2 days later, site ruptured, clean it with peroxide as instructed, washed all bedding, etc.
1 day later, take him back to vet, vet says we don't need to drain it, completely drained, does a laser treatment on the site to help with healing. Wants to have him come back in a week later for a follow up antibiotic shot.
1 days later, Gustavo vomits (He has never vomitted, I know some ferrets eat too fast, or get hairballs, he has never had this issue) and isn't eating. Bring him back to the vet, they say his stomach is very tense, cramping, and he may have a stomach bug. While waiting to see the vet I notice blood in his ears. They determine it's an ear infection, they treat it with ear drops. They give him a shot for the cramping and to help him go potty.
That was Friday, I finally got him in for his follow up on Wednesday. They checked his ears, stomach, and the abscess site and gave him a clean bill of health, opt not to continue medications.
On Wednesday night I found another abscess on the right side of his anus, pretty small. I call, explain I don't have a lot of money until next week, is there anything we can do at home? They suggest applying a warm water compress, and if it's not gone by Saturday to come in early in the AM. Thursday night the abscess had almost tripled in size.
I brought him in this morning, they are going to lance this one too.

He has been through so much these last few weeks and I'm at a complete loss of what to do. They say he is showing great signs of improvement in overall health, skin and fur is getting better, more energy, eating more, gaining weight, etc. However he seems to keep getting these infections. And I understand treating them first is the safest thing to do, but I don't want him to be miserable (although he seems completely unaffected by all of these things except the stomach pains. 

Unclejoe, thank you for your post. They normally give him anesthetic when they lance them, I worry about trying to do that while he's awake, he's a wily one. 

I understand this is a very long post, I'm just so concerned and sad. I want him to be okay, but I don't know how to help him any more than bringing him to the vet. 

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Re:Help! Abscesses! Advice needed - Friday, March 27, 2015 7:35 PM
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Re:Help! Abscesses! Advice needed - Friday, March 27, 2015 9:14 PM
unclejoe, thanks for taking the time to look that up! I picked up poor Gustavo a couple hours ago. The vet did agree that it is definitely a problem with the anal glands. They tried to express them, but it caused him too much pain. They ended up having to put him back under. They lanced it and left it open to drain. They said there was a lot of "anal gland matter" in there, but I'm not really sure what that means, but I'm to keep an eye on it over the weekend, check for what's draining out, etc. They also gave him a shot of penicillin. They have an idea that it could be an autoimmune disorder, but when I got there, doc was gone for the day and I didn't get to talk to him about it. 

It sounds like they gave the ferret prednisone and antibiotics by mouth, in the thread you linked. Gustavo has gotten steroid and antibiotic shots, but nothing by mouth. The thread gives me a lot of ideas about what to bring up with the vet.
I'm wondering if it's time to go find another vet though. He suspected adrenal for the other symptoms and said if they do not improve he would send me to a specialist. Maybe I should just start going to that specialist if another abscess pops up?

Is incomplete removal of the scent glands common in Marshall's ferrets? I know these ferrets are prone to health issues. 
I was also searching this forum and found a handy food chart. When I saw the food I'm giving Gustavo wasn't on the list at all I began to wonder if this could be caused from a poor diet. I've always fed him what we feed our cats, because he would rather starve than be left out. (Seriously, he WILL NOT eat. Such a silly fert.) I'm rushing out right now to get some Nature's Variety and some ingredients for homemade duk soup. I will rub it on his lips and gums and hopefully will be able to get him to eat it.. 

so many long posts.. I don't really have anyone with relevant knowledge or experience to discuss these things with. 

Anyone have any experience with Autoimmune Disorders in ferrets? I haven't been able to find much online. On the chance that it is that, I want to start taking the proper precautions to keep him happy and healthy. 

One last thing, the good news is that he is looking happier and perkier than ever, you should see the ways those eyes are sparkling today! Aside from the multitude of infections, he seems to be thriving in his new cage environment. When he was younger, he loved playing with the cats, but now I think they just cause him stress.

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Re:Help! Abscesses! Advice needed - Friday, March 27, 2015 11:01 PM
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Re:Help! Abscesses! Advice needed - Saturday, March 28, 2015 2:24 AM
They did clean it out, that was what they found when they cleaned it, they want to let it drain if necessary, and heal from the inside which is why they left it open. And it was, its already started draining. I'm going to see where we land on Monday and contact a specialist to at least see what options we have if the abscesses reappear. I'm beginning to question why they didn't prescribe him pain meds though. I went to clean the site and it obviously bothered him very much. I've never had to scruff him to get him to listen to me, but it was the only way he'd let me anywhere near the site. 

At this point I'm satisfied that it's not a medical emergency, however, I've cancelled most everything in the next two days so I can keep a watchful eye. There's a (albeit, not so great) emergency animal hospital that treats ferrets nearby, so I'm lucky in that regard. 


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Re:Help! Abscesses! Advice needed - Wednesday, April 01, 2015 2:55 AM
Well. The last few days were going really well. He was sleeping a lot, but the duk soup perked him right back up. The incision site was draining well, and now it's healing from the inside out. The original side was healed completely yesterday. Today there's a small making of an abscess on it again. Going to see about possibly having the glands removed, and the potential cost. 
Luckily, I took the day off tomorrow preemptively due to the next few weeks being chaotic. 
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Re:Help! Abscesses! Advice needed - Wednesday, April 01, 2015 3:24 AM
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Re:Help! Abscesses! Advice needed - Wednesday, April 01, 2015 3:09 PM
Most recently they gave him penicillin. I was referred to a doc who specializes in ferret surgeries and the like. I go in on Friday. I'm going to talk to him about Baytril then. My vet said he has an autoimmune disease and cannot fight infections, which explains the increasing number of abscesses, the ear infections (his is back) and stomach issues. 

I really hope Baytril will make a difference. 
He is showing first signs of adrenal as well, so I will look at getting him starting on pred. Maybe that will help with both.. 

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Re:Help! Abscesses! Advice needed - Wednesday, April 01, 2015 8:51 PM
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